July 16, 2025
Unpacking Erin Patterson’s Past: Marriage, Motives, and Mushroom Murders
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The Mushroom Murder Trial podcast explores the complex and troubled life of convicted murderer Erin Patterson through interviews, court testimony, and background information on her relationship with her husband Simon. We take a deep dive into Erin's personality traits, her high-functioning autism, and the tumultuous marriage that eventually led to murder.
• Former colleagues describe Erin as "eccentric and abrasive" during her time as an air traffic controller, noting her difficulty with social interactions
• Erin and Simon's relationship was marked by multiple separations and reconciliations between 2008-2013, yet Simon often seemed confused about why they split
• The couple attended Bible study and were regular churchgoers, revealing a religious side of Erin that surprised those who knew her more sarcastic personality
• Erin constantly moved between homes, cities, and careers—from Melbourne to Western Australia and back to Victoria
• While living in Western Australia, Erin opened a secondhand bookstore specialising in non-fiction books about politics, true crime, and parenting
• Simon's cousin David noted Erin's introverted nature but mentioned she seemed more comfortable in smaller group settings
• A disturbing revelation suggests Erin had been poisoning Simon during their camping trips long before the final mushroom poisoning incident
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Hello and welcome to the Mushroom Murder Trial podcast, your source for coverage of one of Australia's most fascinating criminal trials.
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My name is Lisa and I'm a podcaster and a true crime reporter, and I've followed this story since 2023.
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Also today, as we do.
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Before we start, please make sure you subscribe to our newsletter at mushroommurdertrialcom.
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It's full of updates and information about the trial, which brings me to an article in the Herald Sun by Brooke Crabbett Craig, which, in my opinion, reveals much of what I've heard about Erin.
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In this piece, she's interviewing some of Erin's former colleagues from her time as an air traffic controller.
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In 2001, erin undertook another career change when she was selected for this prestigious and competitive traineeship as an air traffic controller at Melbourne's Tullamarine Airport, but she struggled with colleagues and, according to the article, was at times inappropriate and unapproachable.
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A former co-worker described Erin as quote eccentric and abrasive during her stint as an air traffic controller.
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It's important to note both Simon and Erin have described her as having high-functioning Asperger's, now known as a form of autism.
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Now this is interesting.
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Of autism Now this is interesting.
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I don't know if you've heard of the Coburger Idaho 4 stabbing murder case.
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It's fascinating too, because they're trying to get the alleged murderer, brian Coburger, off.
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So in Idaho they actually have the death penalty.
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And what they've done is they're putting up autism as a potential mitigating factor and I don't have an opinion on this, but they're saying it's a mitigating factor and hopefully they'll get him off death row if he's found guilty.
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Fascinating.
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I don't know if it'll play too big a part with Erin, but you never know.
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But I have seen actual messages where she has mentioned that she's got high-functioning autism, as she describes it.
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People with this condition may not always have a hard time with social interaction and communication.
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They may naturally read social cues and might find it difficult to make friends.
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Some are so stressed by social situations that they shut down.
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Although this wasn't Erin, according to Simon's cousin, david Wilkinson, one of the air traffic controller co-workers said she was actually a competent worker.
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She was quote rated in the field and was actually responsible for running airspace for a while.
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Oh my God, I am so pleased that job didn't work out for her, especially with her tendencies.
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The colleague added.
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Erin had guys wrapped around her little finger, although she was very unkempt and she was abrasive.
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Apparently, according to Brooke's article, she had no friends in the course.
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We were a really tight start again.
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We were all really tight and used to have social events, but Erin would never go.
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Something was not quite right.
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She was a bit strange and didn't engage with anyone.
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In my opinion, that could be her.
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She's very introverted, so that could be a play there.
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She might have social anxiety.
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Although Simon's family never saw that, I remember she used to sit up in the back row by herself.
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They said she would say some weird, off-the-cuff things and she didn't get along with anyone.
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Weird off-the-cuff things and she didn't get along with anyone.
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Everybody used to talk about her, but no one would talk to her.
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She just wasn't someone you connected to.
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I remember the day that September 11 happened and we all got to work.
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Instead of doing our coursework, there was a TV set and we all huddled around it watching what was unfolding, but Erin sat in the other room.
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That's so interesting because they're air traffic controllers.
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It's one of the biggest days in the history of aviation and, yeah, erin was not interested in sharing it with people.
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She was quite super secretive.
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We all knew about each other's families and that kind of stuff, but not Erin.
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We knew nothing about her.
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She didn't talk about her parents.
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Another colleague of Ms Patterson's said she was sarcastic and I quote a very strange unit which is Australian for peculiar person and, as we said again, she got guys wrapped around her little finger.
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That is so fascinating.
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I am obsessed by that.
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By the way, I might get rid of that.
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Erin told some people in the Facebook group that Simon was a devout Christian.
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When they first married, they attended Bible study at his friend's houses.
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This is so bizarre because I have not come across the religious Erin.
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It's fascinating.
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Their commitment to their beliefs extended beyond personal study.
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Simon actively contributed to the Coram Borough Baptist Church, where he had assisted, along with Erin and Don, with live streaming Sunday services to allow people who could not attend church access to the service.
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In addition to his religious involvement, simon is described as community-minded, like his parents, and dedicated to supporting local youth.
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He coached children's basketball, mentoring young players and emphasising teamwork and sportsmanship.
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His willingness to give back to the community, though, through his faith and his recreational activities, left a positive impression on those who knew him, painting a picture of a man who was prioritising service and connection in his daily life.
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Simon and Erin began their relationship in 2005 while he was living in Melbourne, with some of his siblings, in an apartment owned by his parents.
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After their wedding in June 2007, erin moved into the same unit, which she shared also with Simon, of course, and some of his family, of course, and some of his family.
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The couple's early connection marked the start of a complex journey shaped by both personal and professional challenges.
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Simon was a civil engineer at Monash City Council and Erin was an animal protection representative for the RSPCA.
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The mushroom cook had grown up with animals and her mother, according to the Australian trained guide, dogs when Erin was growing up in Glen Waverley, which is another suburb of Melbourne.
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It would be an understatement, however, say that simon and erin's marriage was a rocky road, but it started out well, like most relationships.
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I mean, you're not going to marry someone you don't like, are you?
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Because the introverted erin wasn't one to make grand gestures or easily share her thoughts in person, although she likes to put them in messages.
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Therefore, the private Simon was a good match for her.
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As I said, they were engaged in 2007 and their wedding was at the Coranburra Anglican Church in a lovely winter wedding.
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Afterwards, they took a short honeymoon to the Dandenong Mountains, followed by a trip to southern Africa.
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But to understand Simon and Erin, you need to experience South Gippsland.
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It's a Sunday night in May and we're driving the winding and precarious road from Corrinborough to Warragul.
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Thick fog hovers above the bitumen and the visibility is almost non-existent as the Gippsland Mist covers our surroundings.
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I'm thankful it's not me doing the driving.
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It's eerie out there and the weather is bitterly cold.
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It's eerie out there and the weather is bitterly cold Because it's here, amongst the towering gum trees and the unique Australian wildlife, where convicted mass murderer Erin Patterson chose to start a life in the country, away from her childhood home in Melbourne.
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It's easy to see why she was drawn to this part of South East Australia with its stunning natural landscape.
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Earlier in our journey we saw a koala scurrying across the road.
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We tried to record our sound above a racket of bird life and spotted an echidna in the wild, which was exciting because I haven't seen one in the wild before.
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An echidna in the wild, which was exciting because I haven't seen one in the wild before.
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Erin had probably navigated this same treacherous road many times in her boppy red MG SUV, the one you may have seen on TV or on the YouTube clips.
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On the day we went to her home in Gibson Street, everything looked grey, lifeless and a little bit spooky, because to me there's something unnerving about silence in the Aussie butch.
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I think it's a fear I developed after watching the classic film Picnic at Hanging Rock.
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As a couple, they both loved the outdoors.
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Simon and Erin continued to bond by attending Bible study and they were regular worshippers, and they also went out for dinner with friends from church.
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I have to say I do not know this Erin the Erin that I knew had a sort of snarky take on life.
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Was Erin wearing a religious mask?
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She's not the only woman who's done that, myself included.
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Not a religious mask, not a religious mask.
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She's not the only woman who's done that, myself included.
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Not a religious mask, not a religious mask.
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In my case it was a sport mask.
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Around 2008, the couple decided to drive across the continent to start a new life in Western Australia.
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Another bright spot in their lives at this time was the birth of their first child, a son.
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They took a break and travelled by car, also from Alice Springs to Darwin.
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Erin and Simon passed many of the isolated places on the desolate road in the outback.
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These were the very landscapes tied to the chilling disappearance in 2001 of English tourist Peter Falconio.
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This area, by the way, is perfect if you ever wanted to hide a body, because the outback is the place, in my opinion.
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It's mile upon mile of monotonous red dirt and no one's around.
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At the same time, there were clouds descending upon their relationship During 2008 and 2009,.
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The couple faced serious relationship issues and separated for a brief time.
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Simon told the Victorian Supreme Court that Erin's depression was becoming hard for her to manage.
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It seemed to continuously nip at her heels throughout her life, but it's important for me to state that as an adult, erin has always been Erin, making dangerous and rash decisions, getting into blind panics and engaging in unsettling behaviour in unsettling behaviour.
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In 2008, erin rented a property near fancy Mosman Park in Melbourne.
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The couple loved Western Australia and they were excited to start their new life there, with the sun and the relaxed lifestyle.
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During this time, erin also received money from her grandmother's estate and Simon flew to Adelaide to attend a meeting about the windfall.
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But things were still not going smoothly for the family.
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Around 2009, erin was accepted into a vet science program at a university, but she started to struggle with her mental health issues and deferred to study science.
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It's not easy to get accepted into vet science.
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She's obviously very smart.
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This, of course, would be a lot for someone, especially the mother of a young child.
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Simon said Erin's depression and anxiety issues had started to affect her progress, also in the science degree.
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Over time, erin had, according to her barrister, mr Mandy, she'd put on a lot of weight and she was embarrassed about that and ashamed of her weight gain.
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Simon said quote that didn't stand out to me as a strong emotion of hers, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear it either.
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She may have been embarrassed about it, but it's not something that I remember her expressing, something that I remember her expressing it.
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So the wheels were continuing to fall off their marriage.
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They took another camping trip to the remote kimberley region of western australia.
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It was the kind of holiday that suited them both isolated, away from the world and without the need for much conversation.
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Maybe that's where Simon and Erin were their happiest out in the bush together, away from the humdrum of life.
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Well, that was until she started poisoning Simon on their camping trips.
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Moreover, they had another separation in 2009-10 and during that time, erin rented a property excuse me if I mispronounce this at Rollystone, while Simon lived in a caravan.
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In an effort to save the marriage, they attended about five to ten counselling sessions to improve communication and the state of their relationship.
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Simon's cousin, david, told the court he'd known Erin for years, observing his in-law at close quarters as part of their family and and the community as a regular attendee at a local church, erin played a role in helping stream religious services alongside Simon and his father.
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During the COVID-19 pandemic she stepped up, frequently taking over some of the streaming services from father-in-law Don Patterson, the man she'd eventually kill.
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After Simon and Erin were married, david and his wife Jane and another couple regularly met for Bible study, a weekly practice of reflection, as well as sharing meals together.
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Back then the Wilkinsons were close to the Pattersons, cementing a bond that had involved David walking Erin down the aisle at their Anglican church wedding.
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Nothing's ever simple with Erin, for example.
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Nothing is ever simple with Erin Patterson.
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Her behaviour is like one of those floppy air dancer balloons that you see outside a car yard.
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She's always moving from house to house, from city to city, from rental to rental, from her own properties to her own properties.
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Change is the one and only constant when it comes to Erin.
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In those earlier years, her introverted nature was apparent to David Wilkinson.
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She wasn't awkward, but large groups clearly didn't suit her.
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Yet in more intimate settings, such as their Bible study group, erin found her comfort zone.
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Moreover, it was around this time when Simon, an accomplished amateur photographer, started a travel blog.
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This is its overarching theme you can be homesick at home or at home on the road, but you can never predict which way round it's going to be.
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In 2011, Simon had come back to Corrumburra from Western Australia alone to visit David and Jane Wilkinson checking out their newly purchased home.
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David heard from Simon he was not living with Erin full-time and he seemed uncertain as to why.
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We've heard this before.
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I find this curious because, over the many years, with all the breakups, simon appears perplexed about the end of their marriage.
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Right up until 2024, where he testified, he didn't know the reason for their final split, but he sensed it was about housework and his so-called dictatorial manner.
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Moreover, david believed simon's of quote traditional family values had caused friction within the relationship, though it wasn't the sole reason for the tension.
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This is fascinating because I read Erin's mum's book and she was no doubt a feminist.
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She was no doubt a feminist, so how did Erin get caught up in a marriage that had a sense of traditional family values Fascinating.
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Who is Erin?
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Does anyone really know?
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You know what they say?
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Still waters flow deep.
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Certainly the case with her.
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During the visit home Simon, when he spoke about Erin, it sparked more questions than answers about the marriage.
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But the couple persisted with their partnership and Simon moved into a new role as an engineer in Western Australia at the Shire of Mandurah, they initially rented a home, then purchased a house and then moved back in together.
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See what I mean about the floppy air balloon.
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She must have spent so much money over the years in lawyer's fees and transfer taxes.
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She must have spent so much money over the years.
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She must have spent so much money over the years in lawyers' fees, buying and selling houses and paying taxes.
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It's amazing, in mid-2012, another period of separation occurred, lasting about six months, but around this time, erin followed her passion and started a second-hand bookshop in a town called Pemberton it's four hours from Perth and they also moved out of another house, of another house.
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So I did find, courtesy of the web archive, a photo of the bookstore from when Erin owned it, and it's how would I describe it.
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People might get offended, but I had this lecturer at university his name was Roger Patching, and the faculty from the communications department.
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They were in this little area and he used to explain it and say that it was dog penis pink.
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Well, that's the same here at Erin's place.
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It's like a dog penis, almost a brown, but a burgundy very strange colour, but it's got a full.
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When I got the photo, it's got a full rent sign and I think now it's got a pharmacy in it as well and some financial planners.
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It's a big spot.
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And is that anyone who's in Pemberton 48, brockman Street?
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It was.
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If you know Erin, pemberton 48, brockman Street.
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It was.
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If you know Erin from this time, because I am obsessed, I can't get any information Because it was 2011-12, there's not much on the internet.
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The other thing is, I swear Erin would have had a mummy blog.
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Can I find it?
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No, but remember that period around 2010,.
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They were very common.
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So she named her business Kari Books, and it's after a tree that grows in the area.
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And Simon did say Erin had always kept her mind active over the years, reading primarily non-fiction books about politics, true crime, autobiographies and parents.
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So, according to Simon, she's an inquisitive person.
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So when you look at the old bookstore, there's not much of a window display.
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God love you.
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How would Erin have see?
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This is why I need to speak to people from Pemberton.
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How would she have gone in customer service, being so introverted she may have had to put a mask on every day and reach out a bit more, or would she be like a really annoyed librarian?
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Or would she have been like a really annoyed librarian?
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By that, I mean, I can imagine her engrossed in a book in her shop with her glasses on, and someone turns up at the counter to buy something she looks up with and you've got to say she does.
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Does have resting bitch face, so do I?
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It's not a criticism, but she'd look up over her glasses as though to say what do you want?
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That's how I see it.
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But Pemberton people, I am willing to be corrected.
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You must have information, you must have known, and their son would have been in preschool or something around that time.
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She would have had links in the community.
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So there you go.
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Oh, actually, I also found a property history for that building.
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It was rented in 2015,.
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Price unknown, but it looks like Erin may have started to rent.
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Okay, listed, not sold.
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So in December 2012, this property was actually listed by LJ Hooker Pemberton and they were asking $650 a week and it was rented.
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So I wonder what Erin was paying at the time.
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$750 a week is a lot for a secondhand bookstore, but what do I know really Could have been a bargain for the area secondhand bookstore, but what do I know really Could have been a bargain for the area?
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By this point, late 2012, they reconciled again and Simon moved back into a rental with her.
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They also decided to sell a family home Now I don't know how to say this, so I'm going to apologise Quining Nung and it proved difficult to sell that property.
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Also, during this time, erin experienced a traumatic pregnancy which unfortunately, was not successful, because this trauma may have been having a role in their decision in 2013 to move back to Victoria.
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In their decision in 2013 to move back to Victoria.
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Amongst the reasons why they wanted to come to Victoria again is that Erin decided to be closer to Simon's parents and family.
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As support for her and her son, simon, erin and their small son drove back across Australia and then they went to New Zealand and travelled around in a camper.
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Van he wrote the following about their home trip from WA.
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After New Zealand they came back to settle permanently in Victoria, but Simon was still working remotely with his employer in Western Australia as an engineer in local government services.
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In April-May of that year Simon finished his WA work and the job at the Shire of Mandurah.
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After that he was helping Erin with their young son and he wasn't working because Erin was having a troubled pregnancy.
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Simon told the court we both cared for our son.
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I can't remember whether it was an even split or not.
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Despite the relocation, the dynamic between Simon and Erin seemed strange, though the specifics of their marital discord were often kept.
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